Comments on: Sullivan on Obama http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/ Ooooh, Aaah. That comes first. Then later there's running and screaming. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:23:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Johnsenclan » Blog Archive » links 2/4/08 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1490 Johnsenclan » Blog Archive » links 2/4/08 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:15:21 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1490 [...] on the positive instead of trying to scare the hell out of us like Romney, Clinton and McCain. Read this [...] [...] on the positive instead of trying to scare the hell out of us like Romney, Clinton and McCain. Read this [...]

]]> By: josh http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1381 josh Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:29:30 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1381 I think the free market and open competition can do better than the federal government in anything, including schools. State governments can take care of vital services such as roads. I think the free market and open competition can do better than the federal government in anything, including schools. State governments can take care of vital services such as roads.

]]> By: jeremy http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1373 jeremy Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:55:26 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1373 The cookie thing with Hillary really makes me mad. People still bring it up fifteen years later to show how little she thinks of housewives. Should they be more upset that the media thinks so little of candidates spouses that they would ask them for nothing more than a cookie recipe? The cookie thing with Hillary really makes me mad. People still bring it up fifteen years later to show how little she thinks of housewives. Should they be more upset that the media thinks so little of candidates spouses that they would ask them for nothing more than a cookie recipe?

]]> By: Mom http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1372 Mom Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:20:32 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1372 I too will never vote for Guliani - any man who moves his girlfriend into his marital home would never receive my vote inasmuch as I believe that it is an indicator about how he feels about women in general. Besides, I believe he is just riding on the coattails of 9/11. I also would not vote for Huckabee because he scares me. My friend stated that she would like to invite him to Utah to see that her Mormon neighbors are indeed Christians (but it is not his opposition to Mormonism that bothers me - I believe strongly in the separation of church and state). Obama's wife also concerns me (and I do know she is not the one running) - she is very divisive (we need to get blacks out to vote for my husband - shouldn't they vote for the candidate that is most qualified, not the one who is of their race(or gender)?). That would imply that all women should vote for Hillary, or all Mormons should vote for Romney (what do you do if you are black and Mormon or a woman and a Mormon?). If you don't think wives matter, think about Mrs. Clinton, Mrs. Carter and Mrs Roosevelt. Personally, and I am sorry to say this, I am not sure that a woman or a black is electable in this country now, qualified or not. Remember, Josh, you may not want to educate everyone's children, but I, and my neighbors, will be paying to educate yours (you can't tell me that your taxes alone would pay for your children's education), and all citizens benefit from a well educated society. Also, my taxes go to pay for roads I will never drive on and many services which I may never use, or think I may never use, until I suddenly need them (think Caleb). Taking care of those who can not help themselves is a sign of a civilized society. I am not speaking about those who deliberately misuse these services, but those who are truly in need. I should also mention that Hillary did not disdain making cookies. She was offended, as was I, that when their husbands were campaigning against one another for the pesidency, Barbara Bush and Hillary Clinton were asked to submit their favorite cookie recipe for a vote. How demeaning - is that all they had to offer? It was insulting to women in general. One more thing - I agree with Greenspan that this war is about oil and nothing else. We are afraid of losing our source of oil. Do you think we would be there if it was in India? That is my two (or twenty) cents! I too will never vote for Guliani - any man who moves his girlfriend into his marital home would never receive my vote inasmuch as I believe that it is an indicator about how he feels about women in general. Besides, I believe he is just riding on the coattails of 9/11.
I also would not vote for Huckabee because he scares me. My friend stated that she would like to invite him to Utah to see that her Mormon neighbors are indeed Christians (but it is not his opposition to Mormonism that bothers me - I believe strongly in the separation of church and state).
Obama’s wife also concerns me (and I do know she is not the one running) - she is very divisive (we need to get blacks out to vote for my husband - shouldn’t they vote for the candidate that is most qualified, not the one who is of their race(or gender)?). That would imply that all women should vote for Hillary, or all Mormons should vote for Romney (what do you do if you are black and Mormon or a woman and a Mormon?). If you don’t think wives matter, think about Mrs. Clinton, Mrs. Carter and Mrs Roosevelt. Personally, and I am sorry to say this, I am not sure that a woman or a black is electable in this country now, qualified or not.
Remember, Josh, you may not want to educate everyone’s children, but I, and my neighbors, will be paying to educate yours (you can’t tell me that your taxes alone would pay for your children’s education), and all citizens benefit from a well educated society. Also, my taxes go to pay for roads I will never drive on and many services which I may never use, or think I may never use, until I suddenly need them (think Caleb). Taking care of those who can not help themselves is a sign of a civilized society. I am not speaking about those who deliberately misuse these services, but those who are truly in need.
I should also mention that Hillary did not disdain making cookies. She was offended, as was I, that when their husbands were campaigning against one another for the pesidency, Barbara Bush and Hillary Clinton were asked to submit their favorite cookie recipe for a vote. How demeaning - is that all they had to offer? It was insulting to women in general.
One more thing - I agree with Greenspan that this war is about oil and nothing else. We are afraid of losing our source of oil. Do you think we would be there if it was in India?
That is my two (or twenty) cents!

]]> By: jeremy http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1368 jeremy Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:55:06 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1368 I just get the pictures from Amazon for the main posts. On the side they are a plugin for Wordpress (what I use for my blog). I have the Audacity of Hope audiobook. Would you like it? I just get the pictures from Amazon for the main posts. On the side they are a plugin for Wordpress (what I use for my blog). I have the Audacity of Hope audiobook. Would you like it?

]]> By: Diane http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1365 Diane Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:34:19 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1365 Oops, I should have gone in calendar order. Do you have The Audacity of Hope? And how do you post the pictures of books on your blog? Do you take them yourself or get them from somewhere? I am very undecided on who to vote for and am looking at all the candidates except Huckabee and Guliani. Unfortunately, "lower tier" candidates like Paul stand no chance. Oops, I should have gone in calendar order. Do you have The Audacity of Hope? And how do you post the pictures of books on your blog? Do you take them yourself or get them from somewhere? I am very undecided on who to vote for and am looking at all the candidates except Huckabee and Guliani. Unfortunately, “lower tier” candidates like Paul stand no chance.

]]> By: josh http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1353 josh Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:17:46 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1353 It's possible that I'll be using some of the donated vinyl for an "Obama for Change" poster if it comes to that. It’s possible that I’ll be using some of the donated vinyl for an “Obama for Change” poster if it comes to that.

]]> By: jeremy http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1350 jeremy Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:44:18 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1350 I'm looking at candidates I think can win. The Republican party really seems to hate Paul, and so I don't see how he'd be able to get a nomination unless he ran as an Independent. So I've focused my attention on Obama for now. I’m looking at candidates I think can win. The Republican party really seems to hate Paul, and so I don’t see how he’d be able to get a nomination unless he ran as an Independent. So I’ve focused my attention on Obama for now.

]]> By: josh http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1349 josh Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:37:31 +0000 http://www.johnsenclan.com/wordpress/2008/01/08/sullivan-on-obama/#comment-1349 I'd have to say that Paul opposed the war from the start. However, if you are only considering candidates that stand a chance at winning the election, you're right. I'm quite convinced that Paul would be the best candidate for my generation... With Paul I wouldn't have to continue to pay social security for another generation. I wouldn't have to pay for everyone's kids to get a mediochre education. I wouldn't have to pay for thousands of services and programs I may never use. I can rest assured that I won't have future Patriot Acts and other horrible government programs. I won't be paying for an illegal war and I won't see American lives wasted for other pointless wars. But. I'm realistic. When Paul loses, I'll be gunning for a democratic candidate. I think you're right about Obama. Clinton is just scary. I’d have to say that Paul opposed the war from the start. However, if you are only considering candidates that stand a chance at winning the election, you’re right.

I’m quite convinced that Paul would be the best candidate for my generation…
With Paul I wouldn’t have to continue to pay social security for another generation.
I wouldn’t have to pay for everyone’s kids to get a mediochre education.
I wouldn’t have to pay for thousands of services and programs I may never use.

I can rest assured that I won’t have future Patriot Acts and other horrible government programs. I won’t be paying for an illegal war and I won’t see American lives wasted for other pointless wars.

But. I’m realistic. When Paul loses, I’ll be gunning for a democratic candidate. I think you’re right about Obama. Clinton is just scary.

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